By none other then Chris Williams. AKA, Tom Tresh on YouTube:
On his video's he says that collector's must invest in 3rd party authentication, and that they are IDIOTS and MORANS if they don't.
Here is what he said about all this stuff going on with Roger as of late, and it's very eye opening:
Reply by Christopher Williams on Wednesday
I'm still waiting for someone to respond to to my question "Why don't buyers of autographs take responsibility for their purchases?"
Why is it that later down the road, if there is an issue, the collector always blames the authenticator?
Very interesting don't you think? Coming from a man, who stands on a soap box, always saying to buy and trust them, now is saying don't? Sorry Chris, you can't have it both ways! Who's the idiot now? These people that TRUSTED your authenticators are getting burned left and right by their "OPINION". WHO ELSE IS TO BLAME? You say "trust these people" now that they did just that, you are saying "man up and take the loss"?? Come on, how about you grow the fuck up!
Jeffects said it best here!
Reply by Jeffects on Wednesday
Oh, was that a question you wanted answered?
Generally people don't expect an answer to an obviously rhetorical question.
Is this the new direction were going to go here, after Frosts "forged LOA" attempt failed? Blame the stupid collector for trusting the word of, and expecting some due diligence from the self proclaimed "experts".
Here's a shocker, some people don't do their own taxes either. They trust the guy who does it for a living. If he knowingly doesn't do his homework, (claims he does and claims to be virtually infallible,) then takes my money and doesn't deliver, I consider that fraud.
Virtually every authenticator is also a dealer, they authenticate their stuff, their friends stuff, slap a COA on each others stuff, and then consigns it anonymously to an auction house (just like here). Most are in bed with each other.
Good luck ever getting PSA to verify any Morales stuff, or Epperson to verify anything from Mueller. Regardless of authenticity. Half hate the other half, and that just hurts sincere buyers/collectors who trusted them to render an honest "opinion".
You do your videos, "This is Bad... Crap... Garbage...." but I have never seen you offer anything to help collectors as to what to look for, or identifying a forgery when buying an autograph. And now you just blame them?
How do you inform anyone, or help buyers become more informed? You have an agenda also.
So someone want's to buy their kid an autograph of their favorite star. Do you want them to do six months of research just to not get ripped off?
Or perhaps they could just buy from a dealer who says they are an "expert" (also an authenticator), have been studying autographs for 30 years, they offer a lifetime guarantee. (no such thing, by the way) That sounds pretty safe...;. Then lets say,
You go to Mister Expert, someone you trust, and have done business with many times, and you plunk down 10 grand for a signed album. You go to PSA, and they say it's a fake. You try to get a refund and your old pal says, Take it to my friend (and only my friend) at PSA, "he'll pass it now."
Are you kidding me??
You ask the dealer for a refund (lifetime, remember) they say tough luck, threaten you, insult you, and your only recourse is a lawsuit. Who the hell needs that???
Wouldn't it just be easier to live up to ones word, Uh, I guess not.
What exactly did the buyer, the guy who's out 10 grand, do wrong? to deserve that? other than to trust someone who proclaimed themselves "The Best" (his friends all vouch for him) offered a lifetime guarantee and delivered nothing but headaches and legal fees.
If you want to save the world, how about warning your fans on You-Tube about these MJ forgeries that are flooding the market for tens of thousands of dollars, even with a "REAL" COA attached. The $50 Mantles and Jeters can wait a week.
Mr Jeffects, I could not have said it better myself! The truth hurts, and it's hurting them hard right now. He like everybody on that website want to have it both ways. Trust 3rd party, but when 3rd party is later found to be wrong, you can only blame yourself for trusting somebody other then yourself. No finger pointing to me mr you tube video star, you have nobody to blame but yourself.
And that statement is somewhat true... trust yourself, not 3rd party, no matter how good they say they are. If you dig around you can see that these experts are just "SELF PROCLAIMED" ones.
The current case going on, is asking for school records and university degree's and college courses that awarded them these worthless statements. When they can't provide them, what will happen?
MORE SPIN from CHRIS W is what is going to happen!
THE SPIN MACHINE is in full effect! Just don't get caught up in the lies and bullshit!