It's getting really bad. Just when we thought Jerry Lee Lewis would be the biggest mistake of the year we immediately move over to a bigger one, Michael Jackson. I don't think the versions Wascher showed are any different than other forgeries being offered as (REAL). This is Waschers examples to refresh
Looks like the same hand also signed this
I think someone needs to set up a recall hotline number or purchase a very large brush to sweep it all under the rug. What would Brett-Livingston Strong say about this?
BUYER BEWARE NOW SELLING ON EBAY WARNING THESE ARE NOT MJJ WORKS OF ART- they are A Fraud - Jackson-Strong Alliance, Kathrine Jackson or the Michael Jackson Estate DO NOT accept or recognize these fake's as Michael Jackson's Fine Artworks.To all prospective buyers of Michael Jackson's art. Warning : do not purchase any original art or fine art print reproductions of Michael Jackson's works of art, unless it is authorized in writing by either Mrs Katherine Jackson / Michael's mother care of her manager or the Estate of Michael Jackson or the Jackson-Strong Alliance. No certificates of authenticity in association with Michael Jackson's art are valid without the above written and signed authorization.
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Great points jeffects and well stated.
Notice Frost's response from Corey Feldman. Pay attention to the last line. Frost cannot stop committing fraud and why he is beloved by Roger Epperson and Steve Cyrkin.
Hi Chad and all.
I got kicked off AML as well, I probably got angry and said things that actually justified that. I really don't worry too much about it though.
You have the freedom Chad to say whatever you want here, you won't be kicked off. People here aren't afraid of what you have to say. Enjoy it, It's called honesty.
I got angry on that site, honest collectors were getting insulted and demeaned, because they had the audacity to question the self proclaimed boy wonder Epperson, who has a history of treating people and customers in a way that any decent person would find vile.
You obviously have never sought a refund for a forgery from him.
Have you even read the e-mails to the poor guy (loyal customer) who bought the forged Led Zepplin album from him?
There are those who know the type of person he is, who get angry that he's knowingly ripping people off. Sorry we can't contain that.
Yes, I got angry, but I would never buy anything from Epperson. I just feel sorry for others, who may believe the garbage spewed by those with a self serving agenda. (greed and dishonesty) "Cert mine and I'll cert yours."
It happens every day with that cast of characters. So Epperson get's caught re-handed, obvious forgeries, and he brags about them, and demands us to think they're legit, because it's HIM.
Makes a bunch of dough off innocent collectors who trust him. So sad.
Then wascher comes along and exposes him for what he is, cares about the other collectors who are being obviously ripped off. But she has to try and blame everyone but him, because he's Cyrkins boy. So she backs off.
What is Cyrkin to do?
He lets it go on, hoping he can divert it, hoping Roger can lie his way out of it, as usual, but no, Roger can't do that because he has more of them he wants to sell. So Cyrkin starts kicking people who questions it off his site, or allows his attack dogs to insult and ridicule them (victims of theft). So they leave.
Eppersons making a fortune off these MJ drawings.
Have you even considered how R&R auctions consigned and sold 10 or 12 of these drawings within a month or so, long before MV had them for sale? Do you think they got them from MV? Ha Ha, I doubt it.
Epperson is their rip-off expert (R&R). Anything he signs off on is good by them. (but no more refunds) They both make plenty of money off his brilliance. Well. now they both have a big problem. Cash only.
Have you noticed how people with honest questions have gradually disappeared from that AML thread? They get booted, or fed up like prashant, who was a victim of Epperson, and wanted some answers, and asked to be deleted from the site because of the insults thrown at him.
According to Cyrkin and Epperson, Mike Frost has been a thief and a crook for 30 years, selling forgeries and stealing from people. (His customers) Honest people were ripped off Chad, does that even bother you?
But Frost came back 2 years ago and kissed their ass and begged forgiveness, now he's respected? Are you insane. You want to buy something from him based on his honesty?
But Cyrkin loves him now. Would Cyrkin ever invest a dime with that crook? But he tells others to trust him.
So I go on there, and I'm being insulted by kiss ass crook Mike Frost??
Cyrkins loyal followers post cartoons ridiculing American Soldiers as a response to my questions? Are you kidding me?
Yeah I got angry, Oh, but Cyrkin booted me from his self serving lair... Good!!!
I'll take my dignity and honesty over those thieves letting me in their good 'ol boy crook network.
So you end up with a thread showing that Epperson is a liar or incompetent, (who do you think consigned all those forgeries to R&R)?
The only ones still responding to that thread are Frost, Cyrkin and idiots promoting themselves like Chris Williams. Insulting people and proclaiming themselves geniuses. (ask Cyrkin about all the forgeries he acknowledged selling through Star-Brite and see how long you last.)
But for me, having someone like Frost, with the audacity to say the nonsense he said repeatedly, made me sick. (are you stupid enough to believe he paid to fly to New York to investigate this nonsense)?
Even Cyrkin has called him a crook several times. And Cyrkins boy Herman Darvick?? One of the biggest crooks on the planet is now respected over there as a honest authority?
But now thery're all buddys. Scratching each others back to make quick a buck and obtain credibility. Sick.
You won't see that here. But trust who you want. Whine and snivel as much as you want about the anger people have toward those who have knowingly ripped off others for years, it's called stealing Chad.
Let me know if you ever buy anything from Frost or Epperson in the future.
Chad- I agree with Grant. Your doing a great job.
I wish Wascher wasn't silenced. It seems everyone with tremendous knowledge about a certain subject is eventually silenced. It's all about the agenda, not the autograph. Wascher is welcome to come here to share her knowledge and more of what she uncovers because I have a feeling once this is forgotten those pieces will be selling hundreds of years from now. I guess she needs to determine if she want's to listen to an agenda and keep silent or protect collectors and future victims.
I have purchased autographs like you Grant that sellers/authenticators claim they never sold. Jimi Hendrix comes to mind of recent.
Part of me wishes I sold these MJ artwork pieces. I'd refund everyone as fast as I could and go after the source. I feel bad for all the collectors who are "protected" (Cyrkins word) by the sellers and authenticators of these autographs. About a decade ago my stock broker told me he "would protect me by purchasing solid stocks." I was pretty upset when I realized $40,000 worth of money I "Trusted" him to invest were invested in Enron. I suppose my interpretation of "protecting collectors" or being "protected by my stock broker" are different than others now.
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