PSA/DNA Authentication Services

Another Major Blunder

How many stories need to be written over 2 decades proving this “group” (maybe down to one person) should consider getting out of the autograph authenticating business?

This recent “blunder” is less than a month old and several individuals have been hurt/damaged because of an uneducated guess made by “someone” at PSA/DNA.

It’s all about a signature of John F. Kennedy. We have to assume through the years the so-called “experts” at PSA/DNA have given their opinion on hundreds, maybe more of John F. Kennedy signatures. Can we assume they charge $150.00 for each authentication?

The newest debacle is a campaign item while JFK was running for President of the United States. This item was Authorized and paid for by Wisconsin Volunteers.

JFK Campaign Item Signed

A collector purchased this item from an autograph dealer who authenticates and guarantees everything they sell. For some unknown reason the collector “thought” the item would be enhanced by having one of the ABC type authenticating companies issue one of their certificates for this item. The collector sent the item to PSA/DNA and to his amazement a certificate dated Thursday, Aril 27, 2017, came back stating the item was NOT genuine. Seven “standard” reasons found on almost every one of their turn down certificates was listed. The certificate ended “On behalf of the authentication team, Joe Orlando, President.”

Where have all the names of the so-called experts gone that were always listed on these certificates?

PSA/DNA turn down certificate

Is Joe Orlando the President of PSA/DNA the only one left? Now the president of the company is authenticating autographs.

Who gets hurt by this incompetence? The collector is out say $150 for a worthless certificate. The JFK signed item is now tainted. The collector wants to return the JFK item to the dealer for a $1800.00 refund. The collector will no longer purchase anything from the dealer. An if questioned, the reply from PSA/DNA is along the lines “well, it’s only our opinion.”

The signed item belonged to an 80+ year old women who lives in West Allis, Wisconsin.

The following letter sent to her by John F. Kennedy dated May 9, 1960 clearly states that JFK is thanking her for the diligent work she did for him on the campaign.

JFK letter of thanks to Mrs. Habanek, Wisconsin

The following illustration is a handwritten letter from Mrs. Habanek dated 10/20/03 stating she received the John Kennedy signature “in person.”


Letter from Mrs. Habanek stating she received the JFK signature in person

Impeccable provenance!


This is just one more of the thousands of mistakes made by the “PSA/DNA Authentication Team.”  Just maybe, everyone in the last 20 some odd years who had a JFK item authenticated by PSA/DNA need to have it looked at by a professional dealer who specializes in presidential autographs.

Most everyone is waiting to see who the next group of so-called experts names will be listed at the bottom of future PSA/DNA certificates.

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  • According to what was posted on PSA's message board, Joe Orlando signs all the pages now, and there are no more names on the pages.  I guess that is the NEW COA look.  People have speculated it was because of the lawsuit that led to Steve Grad leaving the company.  This way the "names" on the bottom of the paper could not be sued for giving their uneducated opinion, as lets face it, that is what these people are giving.  None are true court qualified experts.  They are all "buddy experts"  Each one calling the other a expert until it stuck.  A "house of cards" that somehow has stuck around for a while.

    The Michael Johnson lawsuit shed a lot of light on just how corrupt things are in the industry.  According to recent court record search, his jury trial against Roger Epperson has been re-set again, so that case will keep going as planned.  Hopefully there will be a video deposition of him online like there was in the RR auctions case.  He's skated by long enough, time for him and the wheels of justice to finally move forward.

    Has anybody looked at how Roger has screwed himself in his case with his filings?

    Won't honor PSA/DNA's opinion, yet in the same court, files that wants to be included with them.  Should be allowed to talk about people under the 1st amendment, but others are not allowed to do the same to him.

    EVERYBODY else is/are PUBLIC figures, yet he's a private person(???)

    Has "qualified privilege" because he thinks he's a expert.  Yet one of his very own last posts on Steve Cyrkin's blog was "I don't post here anymore because it's not worth it" and he lists "blogging on AML" as part of his jobs/activities. (posted less then 10 times in 2016)

    His "LIFETIME MONEY BACK GUARANTEE" actual has a statue of limitations! (unlisted anywhere) and if a item if found to be fake, you really can't blame him, as YOU the buyer should have done your OWN "DUE DILIGENCE"

    (NONE OF THIS is being made up, all of this has been filed with the court by HIM)  Also, a reason why he's LOSING his case's

    Said he had not emailed a person in such a such a time and then supplied the court with documents AFTER the time frame he admitted to.

    Once caught in that, then denies SELLING items, only to have his own COA/LOA's called into question.

    If you want a great laugh, look at his court cases, they are mind boggling.  Some have said, they are going to be used as a "what NOT to do in court" in years to come.

    More to come on these, stay tuned...

    There is no accountability for any of the items he gets wrong.

    Michael Jackson?

    Pink Floyd? Rolling Stones? Madonna? Metallica?

    Look at the recent Elvis that went on over on AML.  As soon as they saw how badly he screwed that up, the images were removed, and the discussion was "closed"

    If this were any other profession a person like this would be held to a set of standards and accountability.  Why is any different here?

    Why is a person allowed to get so much wrong and it's just OK, business as usual?  Oh well, maybe the next one will be right?

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